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 Post subject: Raw ochre?
PostPosted: 05.09.2006, 14:29 
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Has anyone found a source for blocks of ochre or powder pigment for doing small repairs. I'm trying to patch a cracked yidaki for a friend and finding prepared pigment has proven challenging. I've found some on the web at art supply houses that specialize in hand-prepared oil pigments but I'm not sure if there are other places I should be looking.

GGW- any ideas, my artist friend?


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Jason,

I've sent you a PM about this. Get back to me.

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PM answered, Kyle.


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You can go to an art store who sell pure pigment .I suggest that you buy them in powder form. You can find any color you want ,or have them made for you . After all you have to do is work them the way you want .I mean you can work like the aboriginal way pva and pigment or mixt them with oil like we artist do . The only thing is that you probaly dont get the pigment from the same source as the artist used , so you have to mix pigment togheter to get exactly the same color your instrument need .You have to do test before because the color will change when you mix them with the glue . Its very fun to do ,just take the time to do it good . Good luck

GGW
ps; is the new mate as arrive yet ?


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Hey Richard,

I'm sending Jason some ochres I collected in Arnhem Land a few years ago so he can touch up the stick using the 'real deal'!

Kyle


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Thats great man ! better having the local one ,much easier to get the perfect result . :)

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ps; is the new mate as arrive yet ?


Not yet, Richard. But I should have some nice mannbelinj courtesy of Kyle very soon!


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Hi there

Hé hé good ! :)

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flyangler18 wrote:
Not yet, Richard. But I should have some nice mannbelinj courtesy of Kyle very soon!

Is that the one's he wouldn't let me play on stage with him at DFUK cause he said i was too high? :lol:

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s that the one's he wouldn't let me play on stage with him at DFUK cause he said i was too high?


Well I can't comment on your extra-curriculars, Stan, but I do believe these are the ones :)

Paul's playing them instead ;)


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Kyle's just too straight sometimes. :D

Nice little sticks though.

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Nice little sticks though.


Received these wonderful clapsticks yesterday-- a really nice ceramic tone when struck along one particular 'lump' on the larger of the two sticks. Upon close examination, I think there is a small hollow here(termites?) which only adds to the resonance. I've always really liked the ochre handprints so these suit me nicely. They're bound to take on a nice patina as the white pipeclay fades.


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Location: Salt Lake City? Really? How did that happen?
Just thought I'd pipe in that there's a lot of variation in ochres. Just getting some from Arnhem Land doesn't mean the colour will match. Getting one from the same spot of land doesn't even guarantee and exact match. When touch up work is necessary here, our artists often go through a couple of rocks before finding a match. Plus the amount of glue mixed in obviously has an effect. And, you have to wait for it to fully dry before knowing whether you've got a match or not. In the end, you most often have to paint entire sections even if you only intended to touch up a few scuffs or cracks.

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In the end, you most often have to paint entire sections even if you only intended to touch up a few scuffs or cracks.


I don't mind doing this, as this particular stick is pretty simply decorated, and I was planning on this probability. I'm thinking of doing a total red ochre base and then work on some of the finer points.


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Ghost of GW wrote:
You can go to an art store who sell pure pigment .I suggest that you buy them in powder form. You can find any color you want ,or have them made for you . After all you have to do is work them the way you want .I mean you can work like the aboriginal way pva and pigment or mixt them with oil like we artist do . The only thing is that you probaly dont get the pigment from the same source as the artist used , so you have to mix pigment togheter to get exactly the same color your instrument need .You have to do test before because the color will change when you mix them with the glue . Its very fun to do ,just take the time to do it good . Good luck
GGW


Hi there !

Is "PVA" PolyVinyle Acetate ?
Is this what Aborigines use nowadays ?
But what did they use traditionnaly to mix with pigments ?

And concerning the oil... what type of oil do you use ?
Linseed oil ?

Thanks :wink:


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